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Hi all, I hear the people in the comments and changed the title. It more accurately reflects the content of the episode anyway! It certainly wasn't my attention to offend anyone. All the best

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Why are you asking a man what women really want? That heading alone is disrespectful, regardless of what follows in your interview.

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Exactly - Two men telling us what women want - I like to go straight to the source! And women are not a monolith, we are individuals who want different things at different times.

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On retrospect, we should have titled the episode something different. The episode is more focused on men who are struggling with women and Mark's expertise on the topic (which is vast). All the best to you.

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Hi Mark, having intended before making a judgement, a few reflections:

The title is awful but effective clickbait. Women like myself click to unleash fury and the worst men click for your secrets.

The overall message is not how men (who display problematic behaviour or values) become better people but is goal orientated = how can you manipulate/shape yourself to lure women in and not true self-improvement.

Dating Coaches as a ‘thing’ should not exist - male or female.

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Listened not intended.

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2 men!!!!

Why not let women speak for themselves.

What we want is a voice and not men speaking for us.

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There is nothing wrong with the subject or original title. It's unbelievable that it even needs to be said.

A clueless observer from another world reading these responses could be convinced that 'what women want' is some sort of forbidden esoteric secret that dwells exclusively in the deepest recesses of the female mind, and couldn't possibly be figured out from empirical research, not to mention the simple observation of reality and the experience of billions of men over eons of common existence, and that even daring to ask a man that question is a transgressive act that violates a sacred cultural taboo.

Women are products of genes and environment, just like men and everything else that lives on this planet, and there is no reason why their sexual behaviour should be a mystery.

What about the opposite? Is there a single feminist that would agree, if asked, to leave the answer to "what do men want" to be answered exclusively by men?

They've been doing the exact opposite for 60 years, propagating all sorts of lunatic misandrist fantasies and fake statistics, demonizing and dehumanizing any and all males, from old men to babies and from pick-up artists (many of whom are very successful with women) to virgins, and criminalizing every aspect of male existence, even if it's sitting down.

What an unbelievable sense of entitlement. Unbelievable lack of introspection and narcissistic detachment from reality. Rain endless hatred on half of humanity and still expect the objects of your hatred to be morally obligated to your senseless demands. And when something they say or do triggers a narcissistic injury (which is inevitable) - call it "misogyny".

Here's another senseless demand: from now on, only chickens can decide what tastes like chicken and what does not - and human taste buds be damned.

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Maybe I would like it, but I'd really like to see a different title first. I know you are better than this. You have a fabulous female collaborator. My (female) friends work with you. Please step up

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There's really no need for a lecture, but I have changed the title to avoid misunderstanding.

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So now you seem to be shaming me for sticking up for myself? I see that the picture caption is unchanged. So I'm wondering...Would you have changed the title if no one had stepped up? Do you understand why a woman might find it offensive to have any man explaining what she/they want? Happy to speak with you offline.

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As I wrote above, "I hear the people in the comments and changed the title. It more accurately reflects the content of the episode anyway! It certainly wasn't my attention to offend anyone. All the best". I simply forgot to replace the image underneath the title but that's done now. Be well.

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Women, each and every one of us has a responsibility to call men out on their woman-hating whenever it arises, which is all the time. “Seducing women with honesty.” That is disgustingly patronizing. Shame on you Scott, and your best bro, Mark.

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I thought this was a pretty nuanced and respectful discussion. You might want to listen to the episode before forming your opinion. On retrospect I think we could have titled the episode something different to alleviate this kind of response. But I'm proud of this episode and think it gives guys a healthy view of how to respect women and their boundaries.

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Please don’t speak for “women”, because many of us don’t want anything to do with this kind of self-victimizing, bullying behavior.

There’s nothing offensive about the title at all and honestly, if a person is that upset by podcast titles, they have much bigger concerns to focus on than policing podcast titles.

Great episode as always Scott!!

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I might take a moment to woman ‘splain you, sir, if only as a release for my anger. But, I know from experience that “bro’s” are not smart enough to understand. They cling to their “manhood” insecurities, even to their own detriment.

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I don't think there is much mansplaining in this episode, but of course that is up to you to decide. The focus is more on what guys can do to not come across as creepy to women and respect their boundaries. I see nothing mansplaining about that.

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Right, you don’t. My point exactly.

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@sarahhopkins and other women in this thread: 💯

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Before piling on, you might want to listen to the episode.

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I’m curious as to how Mark arrived at his conclusions about what women want.

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Mark was a dating coach for many years and wrote a really important book at a time when the "seduction community" was focusing on manipulating women. I really liked his approach, which was to be honest. I think his message is one a lot of men need to hear and I'm proud of this episode.

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